Bryan Xin Interview December/2004
INTERVIEW: BRYAN XIN
We are here with Bryan Xin of www.xinvision.com. We interviewed a few years ago I believe.
December of 2002… so two years ago.
So what have you been doing for two years?
I have been doing a movie a month for DVSX. My last release with them will be in January. I have done eight volumes of T.N.T. (Truly Nice Tits), seven volumes of T.N.A. (Truly Nice Ass
), four of A.N.A.L. (Ass Now Ass Later) and four of Total Babe.
Four lines is quite a bit.
It’s not too much with one a month. It keeps them rotated.
You said that your last release with DVSX is in January. I take that to mean that you are no longer with the company?
I am a free agent now.
Was your departure from DVSX an amicable separation?
Yeah. It was just time to move on. It was better for me to leave the company now, before I started shopping around to other companies.
By the time I get this transcribed you will probably have signed with another company and we will have to do it all over.
I don’t know about that. I’m going to choose very carefully.
What are you looking to do now?
Well, I’m looking around. I want to take my time, and make the right choice, but not necessarily right now. I don’t want to jump into something and then change my mind a few months down the road.
Is the one movie a month schedule something you want to keep or do you want to increase it?
It all depends on where I end up and what type of movies I’m making. I could do more than one a month under the right circumstances.
Are you looking to move over to features?
No. That’s not for me.
So you’re looking to stay with the all-sex/gonzo stuff.
That’s what I would like, yes.
Let’s talk about each of the four lines a little bit. My favorite of the four is T.N.T..
That’s really your favorite?
I would say that it is my favorite consistently. There are eight volumes of that right?
Eight lovely volumes of natural boobies.
Who is in the new one?
Sammie Rhodes in one of her early scenes. I was going to put her in T.N.T. 7, but I decided to make that one more for the bigger girls. Sammie fits more into the cast of the eighth volume.
All of the girls in T.N.T. are natural correct?
Yes, all natural. We have Jessica Sweet, Brandy Talore and Angel Dark in this new one as well.
Some truly nice tits for sure. And T.N.A., we are up to number seven right?
That’s right.
Have you shot any girls for both lines?
I don’t believe I have. I think it would be tough to find a girl who would fit into both. A lot of the girls from T.N.T. who have great asses don’t do anal so they would be a difficult fit.
If you could think of a girl who might fit into both, who would it be?
Angel Dark probably could be in both. Her ass is on the small end, but she could work. Carmen has a great butt, but she doesn’t do A. She has the body though. Maybe Sammie Rhodes. She has a bit of ass.
What are you looking for when you cast your lines?
For Truly Nice Tits, I am looking for a girl with a good rack, of course.
What makes a good rack? Is bigger always better?
Not always, but big is a requirement. They also have to have a good shape. I avoid big flabby ones. If the girl has a great rack and maybe isn’t as pretty in the face, I still want to put her in the movie. I watch a lot of big tit videos and a lot of times I don’t even notice the girls’ faces. (laughs)
Do you get to try the girls out, you know, test for authenticity?
Sometimes I have to check. There was a girl from Prague named Jennifer who has tits that are too perfect looking. You would swear that they are fake. They are too big to be standing up like that. I had to give those a squeeze test.
She sounds like Audree James, who you also shot.
Yes, she is another beautiful girl, with great tits.
What do you look for when you’re casting a great ass for Truly Nice Ass?
A nice thick one.
Wide or front to back thick?
Front to back. A good bubble is important.
So you can rest your drink when she’s standing up straight.
That’s certainly how I like to be served.
Ass Now Ass Later obviously focuses on the booty sex.
Yes, that’s all anal. No vaginal. People are still confused about that. They ask if there are DP’s in it. It’s all anal.
Who is in the most recent A.N.A.L.?
Roxy Jezel, Melissa Lauren, Jayna Oso and others.
You have shot some of my favorite girls for the Total Babe line. Who are some of the best girls from that one?
Brittney Skye, she did one of the best scenes for that series. I shot Nautica Thorn and Cytherea for the same volume, actually. And Avy Scott, she was the cover girl for the first one.
She could be in T.N.T. or T.N.A. as well.
Yeah, she was in T.N.T. 3.
Teagan was in Total Babe as I recall.
In the last volume yes. She looked great. I was very happy with the photo set we got of her. She told me herself that those were the best pictures ever taken of her.
Anyone can go to my site and see the weekly photo shoots Bryan sends over as eye candy. So who have been your favorite girls to shoot?
That is a tough one. There are girls who are easy to shoot where people don’t appreciate the scene as much, but there are girls who have been difficult, but the results have been good. I guess it depends on how you look at it. There have been a few instances where the girls were easy to work with and the scenes came out great. None stand out as favorites though.
OK, we can move on. The AVN nominations just came out. How many did you get?
Ummm, somewhere between one and zero.
What a rude question for me to ask. What was the one nom for?
It was for a scene in A.N.A.L. 3, Best Anal Sex Scene.
Do you think you’re going to go home with a statue?
Not really.
Is that something you even care about?
I had more nominations last year, but I didn’t even go to the show. I would rather see the movies appreciated by the fans and see them sell well.
Speaking of fans, do you have any?
(He laughs) I have between one and zero.
Which line do you get the most fan feedback from?
Probably T.N.T.. I think that genre has a really hardcore fan base. I see the series mentioned in the big tit forums. You show those guys a pair of tits and they can ID them right away. They know all the tit movies and follow closely. I think I get the most mail from that.
Scenes with big tits are tricky. Most of them are either regular scenes that just happen to feature a girl with big tits or they are so completely focused on the breasts that they end up looking like a fetish scene. Yours do enough breast footage to keep things title-specific, but you don’t lose the mainstream appeal either.
That has always been hard to balance, and I think it always will be. A lot of times when I am shooting, I lean one way or the other. Sometimes a scene will end up more fetishy, and sometimes it ends up being a regular sex scene with some tit tease. I personally would rather shoot big tit scenes that are geared towards the big tit fetish. There are a lot of supposed big tit lines out there, but what they are is just gonzo movies with girls that have B cups. I guess they just figure that if they are natural, that is enough. But I don’t think they really get it. That type of thing doesn’t cut it for the core audience. The core audience wants to see girls that have large, natural tits. For instance, I myself am a fan of a lot of the Score videos and a lot of the Score/Voluptuous girls.
Those really focus on the breast play.
They don’t get many nominations either, but the fans love them.
I just saw the Complete Linsey Dawn McKenzie DVD set from Score.
I have that set.
Is she a girl you would like to shoot for T.N.T.?
I tried actually.
How did that go?
I knew a guy who knew her, but she is exclusive with Score so I don’t think it’s going to happen.
Damn.
I always thought that if I could shoot her I could really do her justice.
Would it be safe to say that she would be at the top of your wish list for T.N.T.?
She and Danni Ashe would be at the top of my list for that.
What about for T.N.A.?
I tried to shoot Ryan Conner once. When I was doing boxes, I wasn’t that big of an ass man. I was working on a box with pictures of her that showed off her glorious behind. That was around the time I really started thinking about ass. And I kept thinking about it. In fact, I can’t seem to stop. Help me.
So seeing Ryan Conner’s ass was like smoking crack. One time and you were hooked.
Yeah, exactly. But I couldn’t shoot her, because she became condom only.
Do you get a lot of feedback on condom scenes?
Yeah, a lot of negative feedback, though I have only done two or three.
How did the most recent HIV outbreak affect your shooting schedule?
I was in Europe right about the time it happened. I had shot a lot of stuff and had a lot on the shelf. Because of that, I was able to abide by the quarantine.
You have shot in Europe quite a few times. What do you think is the biggest difference between American and European talent?
The biggest difference is the language barrier and cultural differences. For a while there, I was shooting a lot of the new girls in the business, and they don’t always understand the kinks that I want. Can you believe some of them hadn’t ever seen porn? They kind of gave me funny looks when I wanted them to play with their tits or their ass. Imagine trying to direct someone in a scene who has no concept of what a sex scene even consists of.
At DVSX you followed their six-scene, 120 minute format. Since you shoot a lot of tease that leaves you less time for the sex.
With the strict format that they had, I feel like it made my movies suffer in all aspects. Budgetwise, the more scenes in a movie, the less I was able to spend on a scene. Also as far as the footage is concerned, having to always shoot 6 scenes, and having to fit everything into 120 minutes means something was always sacrificed, whether it’s tease, blowjob, or sex.
Timewise, you have to find the balance.
I’d like to have at least 25 minutes per scene.
I have noticed that the blowjobs in everyone’s movies are getting shorter. And here I was wondering, what do companies and porn directors have against blowjobs. Is it because there are so many blowjob lines out there that people figure no one wants to see them in regular scenes?
I don’t know about other companies, but as far as DVSX is concerned, I think that with all of the other things, the anal positions and all that, the blowjob ends up getting cut first. I think there should be more time for it personally, but they had their own editor that they used and a formula they wanted him to follow.
I have heard that you might be considering a blowjob line.
We had one in the works when I left the company so that may be something I look to do in the future.
How can you be a director, you aren’t a performer. Isn’t there some law that you have to be a meat slinger to direct?
Well I just don’t let my girlfriend know that I perform. It’s a secret. Besides, I found that if I just stuck to blowjobs, that stuff always got cut out of the movies anyway. (laughs) Kidding!
You have appeared in some of your own movies, oiling up butts and checking tits.
I don’t do that as often and you don’t see my face very often, just my hands.
Seriously though, you have never been a performer. You did do box design for a few companies though.
Yes, for Red Light, Sin City, and some smaller companies.
And I met you when you were working for Elegant Angel years ago.
Yeah. That must have been 1998.
What were you doing at Elegant?
I was designing boxes and ads. Well, sort of. I had very little creative control.
David Luger was there as well.
David was there, Dion Giarrusso was there, Dale and Corey Jordan, Alex Ladd was working there.
You guys became the next generation of ex-Elegant directors.
I guess we were. I was just thinking back to some Elegant gang bang shoots the other day. They had Lex, Brandon Iron, Mark Davis, all kinds of great guys.
Those early Gang Bang Angels were great. Skeeter Kerkove was in one as well.
I was there for that one, with Bridgette. I was shooting camera up on a ladder.
And the one that got pulled from the shelves.
The one with Miko Lee. I was there for that one as well. If you can find the box cover for that one I actually put my picture in one of the frat house windows.
Like a Hotel California thing?
Yeah.
We just dated ourselves seriously.
Yeah we did.
So how did you go from doing box covers to directing?
I had opportunities to direct before, but I wanted to produce and direct. I didn’t have much creative control when I was doing graphics and I had absolutely no desire to be stuck in the same situation in a different field. I knew Alex and he told me about starting up his own company. I asked him if I could shoot something and he said okay.
What was your first movie?
Truly Nice Tits.
Looking back objectively how do you think it compares to what you’re doing now?
I think it was a really good movie. It was easier back then. There wasn’t anyone we couldn’t shoot. We hadn’t already shot any of the big tit girls so casting was easier. Finding the right girls for that series is hard. I could shoot the same girls over and over, but that wouldn’t go over well.
Is there any girl you would never shoot again under any circumstances?
Do you want a top ten?
Sure.
Well, there’s…come on, you aren’t getting that out of me. There are a few girls, but I am not going to name names. I am sure everyone has people that they just don’t work well with.
Do you have much time to watch other people’s work?
I’ve always watched a lot of porn and I’m always keeping an eye open for what’s new. I also revisit a lot of work from the past as well. I’ve worked around people who haven’t the slightest clue about what else is going on in the business, and that ignorance keeps them down. Most of the successful people know what’s going on out there.
Is there anyone that you think is doing really good stuff?
There are the obvious guys of course, but have you seen Nacho’s Ass Obsession? I thought that was really good. I liked the tease. It was underrated.
Have you seen his tranny stuff?
Yeah. I think it’s great that he is just doing stuff that people think is taboo. Like he doesn’t give a fuck what people might say. I heard he was going to do an all-male title and that is even better. That takes a lot of balls. No pun intended.
Who are some directors that you think are just over-rated crap?
Ha. You are never going to get me to answer that question.
This is why I like interviewing drunk directors. Let’s talk a little bit about your web site.
It is www.xinvision.com
What will people find when they visit.
They will find all of my movies, box cover images, photo galleries and mpg’s of the trailers. They can get an idea of the stuff I have done before they buy it.
I think I met your web master once.
You think?
I was very drunk at the time.
We were all drunk at the time.
Ahh yes, the 2004 AdultDVDTalk.com party. It was great.
Yes it was.
Did you win any AVN Awards last year?
Nope.
How about XRCO?
Nope.
So, no trophies at all?
Not yet. No trophies of any kind. Except my girlfriend, of course.
Would you want to own your own company?
Own a video company? No. Maybe an internet company, but I have seen what is required of a video company and no thanks.
You do your own still photography now. Your still shots are very good. Have you been at it a long time?
I have been doing it for a while- about a year and a half. I think I have an advantage from all of my graphic design experience. I know what looks good on a box and what doesn’t. I have worked with enough bad stuff that I know what mistakes to avoid.
Let’s say you landed with a new company that gave you total freedom to shoot any six girls in the business. Contracts don’t count, you have totally free reign over casting. Who would you shoot?
Wow. A pure vanity project. I would shoot Danni Ashe, Linsey Dawn McKenzie,
Wouldn’t that be six? Danni, Linsey and their boobs?
Yeah, that’s a full cast by any measure. Most of my favorite girls are from the past.
What if you could bring back some girls?
That’s easier. Seka, Christy Canyon, Lisa DeLeeuw. Almost all the girls in Russ Meyers’ movies.
Lisa DeLeeuw, isn’t she dead?
Yeah, that would be a trick.
I think that makes six. At this point we don’t know where you will land, but we know you will be making movies for someone soon.
That is the plan. I would like to keep doing the things I have been doing, tits and ass, plus some new things as well. I was bummed to see people doing cameltoe movies because I wanted to do that a long time ago. I was turned down on that idea when DVSX was just getting started and instead I did the Total Babe series. Oh well.
What about the stuff people are doing with the double anal and that stuff?
That doesn’t really interest me. It doesn’t do much for me and I would rather stick to what I like.
I know you like Asian cinema, what about their porn?
Some of the Japanese stuff is great. I like their bukkake movies. They are just so Japanese.
Why haven’t we seen a line of American talent over there fucking some of the hot Asian girls?
I have always heard that it is really expensive over there and that the agents charge outrageous fees, that its just not worth it. At least that is what I’ve heard.
It’s probably hard to find American talent with mosaic tiles over their privates as well.
That’s another problem. Why do they do that? Show them getting raped, but not the penis. Very strange. Then again, we’re very strange here too: eight fingers in a hole is ok, four fingers and a thumb isn’t. Then again, two thumbs are okay. We got problems.
Here is the big question. Double anal, gay or not?
Is it gay? I suppose it could be if the guys like it. It could be like two gay guys meeting in a straight bar. (laughs) I really don’t know what to say to that question.
We will mark that one down as a non-response. If someone has never seen one of your movies, what should they check out?
Look at T.N.T. 7 or T.N.A. 7 or A.N.A.L. 4. I really think that these are some of my best.
I guess that is it for now. We will either have something to add soon or do another interview when you end up with a new company.
That would be great.
OK then, see you in Vegas.
Thanks Rog.
