Tori Welles Interview
– Tori Welles’ Movies
November 1997
Hello Tori, thanks for agreeing to do this sit down interview. How are you
today?
Pissed. Pissed at the fucking ex husband of mine.
I take it you’ve seen the ad for the video in AVN?
Yeah. Did you like that? Could he have gotten a better picture of me? The
asshole. It is pretty much what I thought it would be, but his little saying
was very clever. Smartass.
Well, that’s pretty direct. I think we can all assume that this anger is
directed primarily at the release of the video. Before we go on, I want to
clear up a question that I have had from the start, and that many of my readers
have mentioned as well. Is there a model release for this tape?
Norman has tons of releases on me. We were working on a Swedish television
show, and most of those releases covered long time periods.
So, there really are no legal questions regarding your video — Private
Diary of Tori Welles. He CAN release it?
I guess. There is nothing I can do about it. The legality is not what bothers
me. This is, like, embarrassing for me, it’s a side of me I would never let
anyone see before, do you know what I mean?
Embarrassing how? You did all these things right?
I did, but I used to separate myself a little bit. I mean, I never considered
myself one of the “nasty chicks” in the business, regardless of what
I was like off screen. I did what I did in my private life, but my professional
name, was different.
Different how?
I wasn’t like a prima donna, you know how I am. I didn’t have that attitude,
but in my own head, there were limits on what I would do on screen. My contract
was always “No anal” and “No Ron Jeremy”, I just didn’t
want to be ssociated with the gnarly side of the business, and not just for me,
but for my future. Later on I could “see my shit was really clean compared
to…”
And some of the stuff on these tapes is different than that on screen image?
This stuff is like all the stuff I talk about to people who know me. I talk
shit about the things I do, and like done to me, but never in front of a
camera. So no one was ever sure when I was just fucking with them. You know,
that was just for private tapes so we could look back when we’re old and say
“We were kind of crazy, weren’t we?”
So, the obvious question is, if you are embarrassed, why tell people about
what might be on these tapes.
It’s going to be out there, there is nothing I can do about that, and people
are wondering why I’m pissed. Well, I answer them and question that. Fuck that,
you ask me a question, I’m going to answer it.
OK, but when we were developing the script for “In Search of Tori
Welles”, you wanted people to see you do things you never had done before,
anal, interracial, even a gang bang. Isn’t this just another way for people to
see that side of you?
Anal and interracial are one thing. That was stretching my on screen image
quite a bit, but a lot of the stuff we shot goes further than that. I don’t
know yet, what all he plans to put in the tape, but there is some stuff that goes
way beyond that.
Like what kind of stuff?
There’s some violent stuff that I’m sure he is going to have to edit out.
Violent?
Not violent like, that I didn’t like it. Violent, like, it was exciting, game
playing stuff. Bondage, blindfolded and shit, like I didn’t know who was doing
me.
Wait a minute, didn’t know who was doing you?
Yeah, I wouldn’t know sometimes for weeks, until I would sneak a peek at the
tapes when he was out running errands. Only then did I get a glimpse at the
guys who did me.
That sound pretty wild. But fans know you fuck strangers on sets all the
time. That’s hardly the kind of thing that will ruin your image. I doubt if a
lot of fans are going to be upset to know this sort of thing.
Yeah but, come on Rog, not everyone wants to know that their favorite porn star
can take a fist up her pussy.
A fist?
Yes, believe me, that was many hours of working it, fucking, tons of lube, but
yeah.
Still, eww, not my thing.
Hey, you can ask anyone who has been with me, I have a tight one, so it took a
lot of work.
I’ll take your word for it, unless you want to give me a chance to find out
for myself. But that stuff isn’t going to be in any US version of the tape
anyway, so what kind of thing is really going to shock anyone?
Come on, you’ve seen my tapes. Anyone who has seen one can tell you that me
going “Oh yeah, deeper in my ass” is not somewhere I would go before.
I would be screaming “Ow” if someone stuck a finger up there. I
remember how humiliated I was in my last two movies for Vidco. That pervert
Jamie Gillis couldn’t get off unless he had a finger or something in my ass, so
I was like “Oh God, just stick in there so you can cum already.” So
this is already going to be a huge leap.
Something else that seems to be bothering some people is that you made these
tapes after you and Paul Norman divorced. What were you doing making these kind
of tapes with your ex-husband?
Norman and I were best friends before we got married. We got married and hated
each other. That’s why we got divorced. Because once we got married we thought
we couldn’t be who we were. We thought we had to conform to society’s views of
what a husband and wife should be. I took out my piercings, started wearing
cotton clothes with bows that matched and tried to be what my mom and others
thought I should be. It was only later that I realized I could be who I was and
still be better than most of the little Stepford Wives out there. We stayed
together to give our kids the kind of home envirorment we didn’t have, but we
didn’t like each other. It was just bad. We had too much growing up to do and
had babies too early in the marriage. Now that I have grown up, I thank God I
have my children. Then after we separated, it took us a couple of years, but
being as close as we were before we got married, then going through all that
made us even better friends after we were married. So we would be out, partying
and ideas started flowing through your heads. He and I could do sick things
that couple’s couldn’t do. I always had great
trust in him.
Do you still trust him?
That’s the thing, I trusted him, past tense. I thought these things would be
kept private, and I am still hoping there is a little area, that will still be
mine. I hope I did something in the past to at least make him feel some
sympathy when he is editing these things to keep some of the super, super
embarrassing shit out.
Like what? What is super embarrassing to you?
There are some things I am not going to go into with you, or with anyone,
because they will not end up on the tape. My lifestyle is very different now. I
am already getting shit from my straighter friends for what I did in the past.
But they would have given you shit for the project you were going to do with
Vivid as well.
I was getting ready to go on another movie binge, you know, do a few movies,
push the limits, and decided not to, because of how it is going to effect my
life.
Wait a minute, you were all ready to push your limits when we were writing
the script for the original comeback movie, the one before the Vivid project.
I’m completely aware of what I wanted to do with the video Rog, but you have to
understand, I don’t do things half way. I really wanted to do a killer project
that did push my limits. When it became clear that was not going to happen, I
lost all interest.
Speaking of that, there has been a LOT of speculation as to why the Vivid
project fell through, what happened?
When I made the decision to come back to the industry, it was a tough call, but
I was happy with the project for Paul. When that fell through, I was really
shocked by all the attention. I admit, it I was stoked about doing movies,
being involved, being number one, you know, being a star. Before, I was more
than that, I was the wife of a
producer, so even the people in the business end of things respected me, that
was a great feeling. So, I was excited, it was nice to have people fighting
over me to do a movie. I got all caught up in being a star again. Vivid, went
back and forth, offering this, then countering other offers. It was very cool.
You know, you don’t want your boyfriend to get into a fight, you love it when
they are fighting over you.
So, Vivid won the bidding war?
Well, I have always felt at home at Vivid. They are a great company. I wanted
to take what I did with them a step further and make it a little nastier. I
have really grown up a lot sexually and wanted people to see that. I was still
totally excited at the time. Had they shot the movie right away, they would
have a movie in me right now. But
then, I started seeing what direction they were going, and it was not what I
had in mind. I am one of those people who is all or nothing. I am either going
to be a fucking porn star, or I’m going to live a completely different life.
They didn’t give me the freedom to do what I really wanted to.
Well, I think we all lost out on that deal. Moving on, I have to ask this.
Is it true that one of the scenes on the tapes has you and Kaitlyn Ashley
together?
Yes, that one started off innocently enough, but ended up pretty wicked.
You realize that between the two of you, my favorite porn stars for the past
ten years are represented in that little pairing. No fair teasing, tell me how
that one went.
It was so much fun. Kaitlyn is a buddy, always has been. I always thought that
something might happen between us, but the timing was never right. We had gone
over there to talk to Kaitlyn’s boyfriend. He wants to get involved
behind the scenes, so Norman and I went over with that in mind. I suspect
Norman might have had more in mind from the start. Kaitlyn and I have always
been buds and we have always been attracted to each other, but it never went
any farther than that because there were always circumstances in the way. So,
when there were no hold barred, she and I were like, “Fuck it, let’s
go.”
Her boyfriend must have been loving that.
He was my DJ at a club a while back, so it was like a little family reunion for
us all at first.
How wonderful for him. Come on, you are doing this on purpose, I need to
know what happened.
There are definitely some things in there that will have to be edited, because
we got into some sick little mind trips in that one.
I’m listening, go on.
You know, the usual, violence, weaponry, every day porn star shit.
Weaponry?
I think I had a gun in my pussy at one time, but I can’t quite recall. I guess
you’ll have to ask her. I haven’t seen if that scene is even in the movie, but
keep that in the back of your little head Rog.
How about we keep my little head out of this discussion ok?
At least until we watch the tape right Rog?
You’re going to watch them?
Yes, Paul said that he would give me a copy to look over. At least he is going
to do that for me. You’re welcome to come watch it with me.
Don’t fuck with me now.
I’m totally serious, then you can see the blush in my cheeks while I try and
explain it to you.
I won’t comment on your cheeks if you don’t comment on any movements in my
shorts.
Oh God, then you’ll be in trouble. I’ll have to wear a skirt with no underwear
and accidentally bend over in front of you a few times.
I’ll be sure to wear loose shorts.
I wouldn’t worry too much, from what I know of reviewers, you won’t have much
to hide, but I’ll wait and see for myself.
OK, anything you would like to say in parting?
Just that I understand why Paul did it. He’s an asshole, we don’t talk about.
We have to see each other because of the children, and they are a priority. He
is a great father, so I won’t do anything to jeopardize that, but I swear to
God,
if I lose anything in my personal life over this, I’ll strangle him. No, just
kidding. He is good at getting what he wants, but he will pay.